Market Talk- FOMC !? BTC new highs soon?! Alts ready to pump ?! 2026-09-16 22:22

Hosted by @BecauseBitcoin.com · 2026-09-16 · Tags: BTC, ETH, MACRO

TLDR

Host Wabi argues last-cycle alts and bull-market-hero charting are played out, even if policy turns easy. Dansec recounts a messy Ark/Argus launch, stays range-bound on Bitcoin until 82k breaks, and treats ETH, SOL, BNB, and LINK as possible front-runners. The space ends with BecauseBitcoin promotions and community links.

Wabi says 2017 and later alts often failed to reclaim ATHs despite QE and ZIRP, so a Trump money printer would not guarantee last-cycle tickers go into price discovery.
He prefers multi-market wealth-creation accounts over single-asset bull-market heroes and calls crypto Spaces somewhat played out.
Dansec calls the Ark/Argus launch a shit show: bridge delays, stables sold OTC at about 2x, then RPCs and launchpads failing.
He missed at least one extreme early runner (about 58,000 percent) after the bridge opened overnight ahead of schedule.
Sui is framed as a short-lived degen chain that went quiet; he remains unconvinced without unique usage.
Robinhood is called a potential Base killer; Ark is interesting for stablecoin swaps, cheap gas, and lower friction once it settles.
Fed hikes and cuts are a nothing-burger to him; historical BoJ hikes looked more consistently negative for Bitcoin.
Bitcoin is treated as a range since the 58k sweep, with heavy resistance near 82k and the 50-week moving average.
He would rather add toward 50-55k on a breakdown or ladder after a clean breakout, and sees ETH/SOL/BNB/LINK as having cleaner structure.
The host closes with a $500 campaign, YouTube Market Check, Discord, and a first-month discount code.

Speakers

Speaker 0 — Hosted the space as Wabi, warning that recycled last-cycle alts and meme-coin charting rarely reclaim highs, congratulating Dansec on Argus, then wrapping with BecauseBitcoin shows, Discord, and giveaways.
Dansec — Walked through the chaotic Ark/Argus launch, compared it to Sui, floated Robinhood as a Base killer, downplayed Fed moves, flagged BoJ hikes, and laid out a range-bound Bitcoin plan with selective large-cap alt exposure.

Transcript

Speaker 0: The tension plays where the chart only lasted a couple of days before going back to zero, right? you have to ask yourself that, did, do the people that you follow play that game or do they play a game of wealth creation where they, where they just look at all markets rather than- Being constricted by equities or crypto and just focusing on that compared to playing all markets. I think those are people worth following and actually having notifications turned on, whether that-- and instead of the bull market hero, right? At least At least that's how I'm seeing it, man, 'cause I think a lot of us, we've been doing these spaces for what, half a decade now, and I think it's kinda getting, I think it's kinda getting played out, to be honest. You see a lot of people still talking about some meme coins from twenty twenty two and twenty twenty four the same way people were trying to chart, AVAX during last cycle and Chainlink during last cycle, and those only managed to re- Reach seventy five to eighty percent of their previous all time highs. And let's not forget Neo, Lisk, and a bunch of those other twenty seventeen altcoins, many of those communities thought that they were going back to all time highs ju-just because there was Qe and Zerp. and they didn't. So even if Trump turns on the money printer and rates go back to zero percent, it doesn't necessarily mean that your ticker from last cycle is gonna go into price discovery. that's what I have to say about that, man. But, Dansec, what's going on, bro? How are you doing, brother? congrats on, congrats on Argus, bro. Congrats on Argus.

Dansec: Oh yeah, thanks. Robin as well. A little bit of a shit show, I think. I think they're, they fucked up their launch. Like this, this, there was so much things, you know, I was keeping an eye on it, I saw there was a lot of hype, and, you know- After seeing what happened on Robinhood, I go, "It looks like they're, you know, they're gonna get a little bit of the trickle effect from Robinhood, so there might be some runners, so I wanted to get into some OGs." But it was, it was a bit of a mess because, you know, the bridge is down, so everybody's waiting for the bridge to open. In the meantime, you got people who had their hands on stables, but they were selling OTC, so you had to buy it at a premium. Which is what I did. So that kinda like pre-pumped some of the charts, but not, not much, 'cause you know most people won't pay two X for a dollar. so I, you know, I'm paying two dollars for one dollar USD seats 'cause I'm degenning and, and gambling and whatever. But I did that, so I was able to buy some, some crappers and some shitters, before. But then what happened is they were supposed to, you know, release their mainnet today. This afternoon, but last night ended up being open, the bridge. The RPCs were open and everybody was bridging stables, and I'm like, "Shit, I didn't have a chance to buy some of the shitters I was looking at. I wasn't finished my shopping, you know?" And one of them that I wanted to buy ended up doing fifty-eight thousand percent. I'm like, "Fuck! " Well, I was only gonna throw like thirty bucks at it or some shit like that, 'cause they were, they're really, they're shit coins, you know? They're gambles. but yeah, but I didn't buy, I guess I didn't buy some other stuff that, you know, some of them did ten x's and so forth. but I ended up buying more after the bridge opened. Which is like, now you're buying more the tops, so you're playing more risky, but I bought more the, the large caps, the safer plays. And then, and when they went live, it's like their RPCs are down, so all the platforms and launchpads and terminals are bugging up, shit's not working, trade fails, so I'm like, what the hell did these guys do with all the backing and hype and money behind it? It wasn't a smooth launch. So with all that said. yeah, some things ran, but they pulled back. It's, it's looking like a, it feels like a Sui crapshow. Actually, Sui actually did a little bit better 'cause I didn't like Sui at first when Sui caught the meme, audience, the DJN audience. I started, and I saw their platform was pretty smooth, their chain worked well, their wallets, their swaps. I started- I started aping some, some shitters there too, and I go, "This chain looks like it's gonna do really good because it's getting a lot of attention and volume, " but it was very short lived, you know, like most, like most chains. It did okay for a little bit, but they died out real quick. Then the Dgens moved on, then the utilities were kind of like not being used much, so everything kind of dies down and it turns into a ghost town. So, so I, I then became bearish on Sui because as soon as I see low activity, low adoption, low usage, I go unless it has some kind of unique use case, to- You know, to gain users and gain traction and stuff, I'm kind of like bearish on the chain. So while a lot of people are bullish on that chain, I still haven't found the reason to be bullish on it. Till this day. so, so now I'm thinking, what's art? So Robinhood's doing very well, I think Robinhood's not going anywhere, I think Robinhood is the base killer We'll see. when Base came out, I kinda saw it as the ARB killer, and now Robinhood, I'm seeing it as basically as far as ARB is concerned, well, you know what? There's a lot of already a pretty built-out ecosystem on it. I think things are gonna settle down and it's gonna get smooth. I don't know if it's gonna attract A lot of, activity from developers and Deejuns. Right now it's overwhelmed only with Deejun utilities, it seems like, so hopefully it turns into more than that, and we can find some good plays on it. But it's nice that you can trade now with, for the DeFi users, you know, with stables, you know, every time people have to figure out, I gotta have some ETH, I gotta have some SOL, I gotta have some SUI, I gotta have some TON, just, just to do your swaps. And, you know, for most normal people, if you want good holders on the chain or investors, it's like There's so much, what's the word? There was no resistance, but friction, and it's like it turns them off, and sometimes people are just too lazy, they don't even bother investing. Unless something's on an exchange. So, so it's nice that they have that, that, that's a nice feature. the chain does work well, it's smooth, gas fees are cheap when it was working. So I think it has good potential, so I am gonna be looking for some blue chips on it, once it does settle and, it's another player in the game, so there's a lot of dilution there. So yeah, so that's my experience with ARC, just For the audience who's curious about the more wild, wild west type of a space, as far as the market's concerned, you know, I don't, I don't, I'm, I'm not, I can't comment much on macro stuff. I don't have the, the knowledge. the, the re- the, the f- The Fed rate hikes, to me, I always see as a nothing burger. you know, but I guess I remember once I did look at the historical rate hikes and cuts on BTC and how it affected it, and it's all over the place. It's, it's no, it's no clear Clear pattern or edge. So there's other macro factors or variables that play really with the markets. So, so for me, it's like whatever, rate hike, no rate hike. I don't really think much of it, but, you know, tomorrow or in twelve hours or whenever, there's the Bank of Japan that announced a rate hike. It's not official, but, you know, it's pretty much priced in 'cause it's expected. It should be official tomorrow, but when I looked at the Bitcoin chart based on all the historical rate, rate hikes, it's always had a negative effect. There was one time it had a positive effect, but it was short lived. and in some of those cases, they were expected, right, like as well, it's not like they were surprises, and over the coming weeks or month, Bitcoin kind of played out. So to me, that's more of a factor. As far as, as far as I could tell. So right now, you know, Bitcoin, again, I'm kind of like always been on the iffy range ever since we- we've been ranging from that last sweep of fifty-eight K. I'm waiting for the structure to confirm that potential, like the trend is in fact up. So, you know, we've been trending up since that fifty-eight K bottom. but we, on the macro side, we haven't broken the big downtrend, but we got very close to breaking it. We had a lot of resistance at, eighty-two K. So until we, we have a clean breakout there, a lot of people are gonna turn bullish, a lot of people that are sitting probably on Tripp powder, I'm gonna start following in or aping in or waiting for a pullback, whatever the case may be. but there's, you know, so there's a lot of resistance there, there's also the big fifty-week moving average around that same area. So for me right now, we're just in a range until that level gets taken out. you know, I'm not trying to front run it. you can swing trade it in the meantime while we range. But, you know, if you wanna deploy for a long term investing in capital, I would wait, I wait for clear structure or a ladder in its, in stages, you know, I have exposure already, so that's why. So either I add to my bag when there's a clear downtrend or I'll add Once if the, 'cause the trend, the downtrend can continue, and that's where I would love to add. So if the downtrend continues and we do break that fifty-eight K, which is still, still in the cards then yeah, I'd rather buy some more at fifty K or fifty-five K, you know, and ladder in there. So, so yeah, and at that point, that's when I would get really bullish. Because, at that point, seller exhaustion is gonna be huge. You know, we already see a lot of seller exhaustion when we're sitting around the sixty K, been ranging for so long. so if we go lower than that, yeah, I would wanna like really deploy from that point on. And if we don't, the bottom is in, you know, if we break that eighty-five K, it'll probably run straight to ninety, I'm gonna ladder in, I'm probably gonna wait, wait for that to settle down. I'll try to catch a pullback, I would think there is gonna be a pullback at some point, and if there isn't, there isn't, like I said, I'm already positioned, so I'll position higher and that's it. So that's how I'm looking at it, that's how I'm playing it. And like Mar was saying, I'm also, you know, Bitcoin having is a thing until it's not. It's always been a thing for me, it's always worked out. There are arguments to say it hasn't, but there's also a lot of arguments to say it has. So, and you know, at this point, we're like, "30 days more from here, it's like, that's it, the cycle is over." So it's like, I got the patience, you know, like I said, if I have to. Start positioning myself, and, you know, and then there's time for alts. Like alts seem to have front run, always the cycles, like ETH is doing right now, like ETH is pretty bullish, 'cause ETH did break structure, it did break that last, lower high. but now it's like it pulled back right into it, so it's like a huge, huge fake-out potential, but that could just be a regular healthy pullback, so it's kinda tricky. So E, you know, Solana, even BNB and Chainlink, I think they all have a- A much more nicer bullish structure, so they could be front running the trend that Bitcoin has yet to confirm. so yeah, so that's why it's kind of like- No solid takes on either side, I'm playing it relaxed, you know? I figure if I'm gonna accumulate and position myself, I'm gonna do that over the next two, three months, not in a hurry to jump in on one given week or another. and I'm gonna ladder in accordingly. So that's how I'm looking at the markets.

Speaker 0: Brother, did you so you caught Argus at like sub one mil then?

Dansec: Well, Argus was one, like, I don't hear you, I don't know if you're speaking, but Argus, like, yeah, I got, I caught, I didn't catch it as early as these other ones, like, I aiped into, a bunch of others like, Holly. Argus, I had, I think I put in less, but, but again, I did see a 10x on my back, on Argus, I saw a 10x on Tally. Argus, I think I- I aped, fuck, I don't remember, 'cause I aped twice. I did so one time, and I didn't buy much, 'cause, you know, like I said, I was paying 2x to get my stables. So, you know, I bought, I bought a thousand dollars worth of, Stables on, on Ark, but it cost me two grand practically. And, you know, so it's like I didn't have much to play with, so I, you know, I threw a hundred bucks here, fifty bucks here, okay, fifty bucks on this, and then, and then it's like I had no funds to work with, so I started throwing a bunch of twenty dollars on some meme coins and shit. I got like the first coin that was created, the first cat, the first dog. You know, and, and then, I was trying to find the real utilities that look built already. So Argus, I only saw it later, so I think I didn't have much funds left, so I didn't put much into that. So I think actually I made a 20x, 'cause my, my, that became my biggest bag, and I think I ate less in there than on other utility plays. So, I didn't really check the numbers, but, so yeah, so I did okay. But I wanted to like, I was moving more funds. To bridge over, 'cause there were some other shitters I wanted to put some money on, and I wanted to increase my position on a lot of the plays, including Argus, and I didn't get a chance 'cause somehow the bridge got opened last night, and I'm like, "What the hell's going on? Why is the--" 'cause I saw the price Was like one point one X, one point two X on the OTC market. I go, "Wow, they really lowered the price. Now's the time to like buy a whole bunch of stables and start front running the, the market." But then I realized why they were selling it at 1.1x, it's 'cause the damn bridge was open for 1:1. So yeah, so everything, I, I noticed everything started mooning, my bags were like pumping like crazy, I'm like, "Oh, damn it, I missed it." So yeah, it was crazy. But today it's like, it's not running. You know, I don't know if the, the Bitcoin price action or crypto price action had an effect to it, but I think it was more the shit show. Like, you know, like I said, it got open ahead of schedule, then when it was supposed to be open, it's pugging up. A lot of utility platforms are just Hanging or not connecting to the RPCs, to the servers. So, yeah, a little bit of a shit show launch day for them. But, you know, I'll give it time to settle down. In the meantime, it gives me a chance to position myself on the ones that I think are some good plays.

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